I was only going to do one post on this subject, but then I struck gold with this vanity thread.
Original post:
The buzz today is Drudge's headline, "P@$$ed" and the associated Wapo blog
Most Freepers know that I'm as far from a conspiracy theorist as one gets. But this seems too convenient. You have:
a president whose polling is tanking, whose re-elect is deeply in trouble, and whose policies cannot possibly improve things in the next eight months;
a president who despises the military (there is a new book out by Michael Hastings, The Operators, reporting that Obama in Baghdad didn't want to shake any more soldiers' hands or sign books http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/book-depicts-cranky-obama-on-baghdad-visit;
a president who desperately wants out of Afghanistan and Iraq and who has refused to take the recommendations of his senior generals;
and now, out of nowhere, a video of Marines "desecrating" the bodies of Taliban killers suddenly appears. (For the record, I seem to recall Patton urinating in the Rhine and it was cheered by the press. Also, for the record, I seem to recall Taliban/al-Qaeda types actually cutting off the heads of living Americans, and I'm supposed to get upset by urinating on the dead body of an enemy? Sorry, gotta meditate on that one).
Also for the record, to me the video is extremely staged. The bodies are neatly positioned, the Marines lined up, and obviously this wasn't spur-of-the-moment passion, er, erupting. At the end, the photographer apparently says, "Is that it?" So the video was meant to be released.
As I say, I'm no conspiracy theorist, but for an administration desperate to be hailed for something positive and desperate to radically reduce the size of the military, this little incident seems tailor made.
Comments:
Is the date the video was made public knowledge yet? How old is it?
Has it been in the wings, waiting for an operative to spring to the MSM?
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Maybe the marines were paid by a liberal to do that.
Might sound preposterous, but who would be so stupid to video it and put it up on Youtube, if they aren't against the Military?
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One can believe that since the lame-stream media loves and adores our Nation's Military they only have their best interests for our Nation and Nation's Military in their hearts. {Dripping sarcasm}
The lame-stream would never offer aid and comfort to America's enemies. That has never happened, and there are no instances which can be referenced. {more Dripping sarcasm}
Our Nation's lame-stream media has been more than lame-stream, or Drive-By, as Rush coined. Saddened by the lame-stream leaving NO DOUBT whose side they are truly pulling for in this war, yet no surprised.
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"Maybe the marines were paid by a liberal to do that."
There are no liberals in foxholes.
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We have become a nation of sissies. We are doomed. Seriously.
It’s only a matter of time.
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The thought I’m mulling in the back of my mind is that Obama is using Afghanistan to get rid of the patriotic troops, either by death, injuries, or demoralization.
The most telling moment, I think, was when Obama’s people wanted to apologize for bombing Hiroshima and Japan wouldn’t let them. The thing the terrorists/Islamists want more than anything is a protracted war where the opposition views it as immoral to actually kill first before the enemy kills you. The free world could turn the Islamic world into glass and be done with it. Instead, we’re letting grown men use their women and children as human shields so that they - and we - can die slow, painful deaths while an Islam (that is hell-bent on terrorizing the whole world into becoming Muslim) spreads all over the world.
We talk about Chamberlain’s appeasement of Hitler, and rightly say that appeasement only fuels bullies. Well, Islam is by its very nature a bully bent on domination through violent means and the suppression of anybody who has a free, independent thought. It’s Hitler on steroids. If it was OK to take out Germany and anybody who sided with Germany, then why is it not OK to take out the Islamists and anybody who sides with them? Because Islam calls itself a “religion” they’re untouchable? Murderous tyrants are OK as long as they claim to be doing it for God?
I think we need to think long and hard about the enemies we face and get serious about facing them.
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Several months ago, there were some news articles about US military urinating on dead bodies.
Is this the same incident or a new one?
CAIR is notorious for trying to stir up trouble. They have been trying to claim hate crimes against Muslims for years, but only had a few cases that even seem close. But, they keep trying.
Also, recall some faked videos of British military (IIRC) several years ago in Iraq.
Per one report I heard, at least one of the guys in this current video has been located and has been out of the military for a while.
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BTW, Feb. 2 is groundhog day and also the State of the Union speech.
In one case you have an insignificant little creature pontificating about the future and the other is a ground hog and his shadow.
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It could be as simple as Obama wanting to get the Alice in Wonderland party off the front page. He is that insecure.
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Unfortunately, we do know that the Obama regime has no problem with staging “fake but accurate” images - as can be seen by their staged photo of people anxiously watching a screen where the Bin Laden assassination was (not) being shown.
Somebody suggested that the timing of this could be to prepare for another attack. I’ve been reading up on the Holocaust and realizing just how much the Reichstag Fire was used to get Hitler’s nose into the tent. That’s how tyrants always get their foot in the door. Like a computer trojan - get somebody to believe their computer is in danger and click on the box, and voila! you’ve got full control to take over everything.
Obama tried fomenting trouble with OWS but people could see through that stupidity so it didn’t work. So now Obama has to come up with something else to be the spark to ignite the communist-slamist takeover of America. Could be the Israel and Iran situation. Maybe this attempt to raise another Abu Ghraib scandal is a back-up plan to that, or maybe this is to serve the double purpose of demoralizing the troops and distracting the public while he grabs more unconstitutional power in a race for martial law before the judges find him in contempt for refusing to fork over his documentation.
Lots to think about, for sure.
These are actual quotes on current and past news topics from members of the far right forum FreeRepublic.
Showing posts with label taliban. Show all posts
Showing posts with label taliban. Show all posts
Saturday, January 14, 2012
Request: U.S. Marines probe video of men urinating (1) on Taliban corpses
I use the term "request" lightly, as Jackson Herring added that "frankly a big part of me doesn't even want to know what Freepers have to say about it." If you agree, then CTRL+W now or forever hold your peace.
Better to be urinated on than set on fire, dragged through the streets and hung from a bridge.
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"I thought this was SOP."
Just don’t film it.
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I do not like to see reports of U.S. soldiers cutting off fingers or ears of dead Taliban. It just strikes me as disgusting.
On the other hand, I am perfectly happy to see them urinated on.
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Why would Marine Corps officials even make a comment before being able to authenticate the video? This kind of presentation can be easily staged and faked.
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"Dishonorable discharge maybe even a few months behind bars. This kind of disgusting and pointless vulgarity will just further enrage the Afghan mob and may cause violent retaliation against other soldiers, these retards may have inadvertently killed American soldiers."
--- This reasonable remark was made by a new member, and had quite a few responses, including:
**Oh BS. Who gives a good damn about enraging a people who want you dead anyway.?
Do you really think that this will make them want to kill Americans faster than they already do?
It may draw them out where American soldiers can kill them quicker.
**Hey nOOb troll, You are an idiot if you think ANYTHING done to the taliban by our men is gonna ramp up or regulate their hate and rage against us westerners, military or civilians. Yeah, like they need reasons. They are muslims! that is what they do, hate, hate, hate. Remember our men strung up on that bridge? Oh I suppose that was okay with you? Get a clue nOOb.
**Cry me a river.
I think this is hilarious and have no problem with it, considering what the goatfackers have done to their brothers. Other than filming it and having noncombatants seeing it, that is. Foolish, what happens on the battlefield should stay on the battlefield.
Get some Devil Dogs.
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Before anyone starts wailing about this, let’s not forget that these are the Taliban we’re talking about, here. They don’t care a whit how they’d behave, if the situation were reversed. Their atrocities are far, far worse.
The Koranimals are bipedal automatons, and do not deserve to be dignified by being considered human.
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Love all the sappy handwringing on the site. “Oh, this is so shameful!” “How can the Marine’s investigate themselves?”
Seriously?
We are at war.
These are US Marines peeing on dead Taliban.
This is a good thing.
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Those disgusting little scum supported the death of 3000 Americans, shot at our troops and somehow this is going to get more of our troops killed. Give me a break. If I was in charge there wouldn’t even be a Afghanistan person alive to kill one more American. To many people loss sight of the fact that they want our brother sisters son and daughters dead.
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Stupid, prissy, SOBs, whining about nothing. I want LBJ disinterred so I can piss on his corpse and I pissed on more than a few dead VC and NVA to earn the right to do so.
I think the whiners need a special "right to bitch" one week training course after which they're dropped of in the middle of bad guy country with whatever ammo they can carry, fifteen year old rations, a compass, and part of the map they need. Tell them that if they find their way back to friendlies that are, "just sixty miles over yonder", and they're still upset about the corpses of the people who tried to kill them their complaint forms will be stuck at the bottom of the pile of paper the VA routinely takes a decade to process.
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Promote those men... see if any of them want to run for congress
Better to be urinated on than set on fire, dragged through the streets and hung from a bridge.
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"I thought this was SOP."
Just don’t film it.
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I do not like to see reports of U.S. soldiers cutting off fingers or ears of dead Taliban. It just strikes me as disgusting.
On the other hand, I am perfectly happy to see them urinated on.
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Why would Marine Corps officials even make a comment before being able to authenticate the video? This kind of presentation can be easily staged and faked.
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"Dishonorable discharge maybe even a few months behind bars. This kind of disgusting and pointless vulgarity will just further enrage the Afghan mob and may cause violent retaliation against other soldiers, these retards may have inadvertently killed American soldiers."
--- This reasonable remark was made by a new member, and had quite a few responses, including:
**Oh BS. Who gives a good damn about enraging a people who want you dead anyway.?
Do you really think that this will make them want to kill Americans faster than they already do?
It may draw them out where American soldiers can kill them quicker.
**Hey nOOb troll, You are an idiot if you think ANYTHING done to the taliban by our men is gonna ramp up or regulate their hate and rage against us westerners, military or civilians. Yeah, like they need reasons. They are muslims! that is what they do, hate, hate, hate. Remember our men strung up on that bridge? Oh I suppose that was okay with you? Get a clue nOOb.
**Cry me a river.
I think this is hilarious and have no problem with it, considering what the goatfackers have done to their brothers. Other than filming it and having noncombatants seeing it, that is. Foolish, what happens on the battlefield should stay on the battlefield.
Get some Devil Dogs.
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Before anyone starts wailing about this, let’s not forget that these are the Taliban we’re talking about, here. They don’t care a whit how they’d behave, if the situation were reversed. Their atrocities are far, far worse.
The Koranimals are bipedal automatons, and do not deserve to be dignified by being considered human.
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Love all the sappy handwringing on the site. “Oh, this is so shameful!” “How can the Marine’s investigate themselves?”
Seriously?
We are at war.
These are US Marines peeing on dead Taliban.
This is a good thing.
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Those disgusting little scum supported the death of 3000 Americans, shot at our troops and somehow this is going to get more of our troops killed. Give me a break. If I was in charge there wouldn’t even be a Afghanistan person alive to kill one more American. To many people loss sight of the fact that they want our brother sisters son and daughters dead.
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Stupid, prissy, SOBs, whining about nothing. I want LBJ disinterred so I can piss on his corpse and I pissed on more than a few dead VC and NVA to earn the right to do so.
I think the whiners need a special "right to bitch" one week training course after which they're dropped of in the middle of bad guy country with whatever ammo they can carry, fifteen year old rations, a compass, and part of the map they need. Tell them that if they find their way back to friendlies that are, "just sixty miles over yonder", and they're still upset about the corpses of the people who tried to kill them their complaint forms will be stuck at the bottom of the pile of paper the VA routinely takes a decade to process.
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Promote those men... see if any of them want to run for congress
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