"Can We Prevent A Second Civil War?"

Article here from, and I swear I am not making this up, the Jews for Protection of Firearm Ownership

Summary: Fight for your right to bear arms or a second Civil War might be a-coming.

"No other significant present day problems could potentially result in the “brother against brother” tragedy of a Second American Civil War."

Really? How about one brother increasingly appropriating the fruits of the other brother's labors?

This will 'bring it on' before anything else.

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“Can we prevent a second civil war?”

First question: why would you want to?

Lest anyone fly off the handle and call that insensitive, let me say this, a civil war would not be the worst thing that could result from current situation. One side is already fighting hard, and has been for a century...and they’re winning. War isn’t pretty, but submission to tyranny is uglier still.

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The biggest threat to ignite a 2nd U.S. civil war is looming--when Obama loses in 2012. Looking forward to it. (Him LOSING)

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Islam has been waging jihad for 15 centuries. We fought back, briefly, in the time of the Crusades, but since then we have largely submitted to Islamic encroachment. The other side fights hard, and we try to ignore the struggle.

In the same way, as you indicate, the Left has been at war with western civilization for a long time. I would say it really began with the French Revolution in 1789. The other side fights hard, and we try to ignore the struggle.

I have no desire to delay the struggle. I want the fight, because everything I value in this earthly realm is slipping through my fingers.

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The problem with this type of thinking is that despite a lot of blustery talk, who would know who to shoot? There are no clear boundaries, no enemy territory. You certainly can’t separate them as blue state/red state, as often the difference between them is just a few percentage points.

On the old Townhall forum, there was a nutbag who talked about dragging liberal soccer mom’s out of SUV’s and ending them on the spot, and that’s obviously not the answer even if soccer were truly a fair test of liberalism, which it is not.

So far, I’ve yet to see a decent explanation of who would be the targets in this civil war that some claim that they want.

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The far left has taken over the democratic party and wants to punish America for its greatness. I’ll be damned If I’m going back to Mud huts and bicycles for the sake of the third world! I don’t feel guilty for America’s greatness and I don’t need to apologize to any tin pot dictator in the f’ing U.N. for my country, damn it!.....

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"Who are the other side? The left? The takers? The entitled? Nope. They won't fight. Fight for what? They don't have anything morally to fight for."

The NAZIs didn't have anything moral to fight for either, but that didn't stop them. And if you closely watch the tactics of the left, and especially the unionized left, you'll see that their tactics are very similar to those used by the national socialist party in the 1930's. Except this time, the conservatives are the new 'Jews'.

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"I live in the 21st century where state residence is fluid. As often as not in this century, the state you reside in is merely where your company transferred you, or where that promotion happened to be. Living and dying within 100 miles of your birth was the norm in the 19th century, but it's the exception in this one. That's just a fact.

I'm an American, that's where my allegiance lies. I served in her navy, sang her anthem, and said her pledge as a child. I was born in Colorado, I live in Texas, and plan to retire in Hawaii. That pretty much says it all. "

You pretty much sum up what is wrong with the Republic. Lincoln was a brutal butcher and destroyed the republic. You are one of his boot licking spawn. I guess your retirement check is more important than the republic. Screw you.

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"who would know who to shoot?"

I bet most of us could walk through town right now and with a high degree of accuracy pick out the ones who will be doing looting and killing.

But when the SHTF they will make themselves known in no uncertain terms. Especially when things first start to break loose.

They will be the ones looting the local stores and the houses on the next block, driving into our neighborhoods in caravans of packed cars waving their stolen weapons. They will be the ones dragging our neighbors out of their houses and beating them senseless.

When they come down our driveways or up to our homes we will know who they are and why they are there.

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I promise you that a single bullet through the kitchen window of the Mayors house will make for an excited dinner conversation. The Mayor will then understand exactly what he did when he ordered violence against his townspeople.

The Chief of Police’s wife should be entitled to explain to her husband what a wonderful job he’s doing if her home were to receive a copper jacketed message through her front door or her bedroom window.

"You can’t seriously be suggesting that anyone take pot shots at the mayors wife. Really?"

No, not at her. Aim at her front door, the place her husband has always said is safe from the little people. Show her that her home is just as vulnerable to attack by outsiders as our homes are.

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I often wonder where we would be today if McCain was elected? I hope we can avert a lot of this in next year's election.

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1st - the War of Northern Aggression was not a Civil War because the south was trying to secede from the USA and not trying to change the government of the USA, which is the requirement needed to be a “civil” war.

So, the next war will be First Civil War if patriots in all 50 states revolt. If a subset of states attempt to secede, then is will be the “War of Democrat Overreach and taxation without representation”, since the republicans obviously are not representing the will of the people either.

In many ways another conflict where the conservative states secede is preferable since I believe California and NY are lost forever and if the majority of the states secede then I don’t see how the Yankee/CA liberal bastards can do much.