Surprise! Santorum: birth control harms women and society

As with many positions that are considered far right, I threw in some more reasonable responses here.

What about us married folks who just don't want any more children, Rick???

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This election is not going to be decided on birth control. Santorum made it clear that he was voicing his personal belief and not proposed policy.

While I don’t agree with Santorum on this, he is certainly correct to point out that there is a downside to contraception.

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A real Catholic doesn’t support birth control. That makes sense as a rule that benefits society. Societies who don’t reproduce die out. When you have an enemy culture like the Muslims reproducing at a much more rapid rate, you hurt your society in the long run by being overrun by them. We can see how it’s happening in Europe with collapsing birthrates among whites and massive Muslim immigration and reproduction.

Low birthrates also hurt the economy as we’ve seen in Japan and Europe. They make a society weaker, less productive and gradually smaller.

God didn’t intend to make it easy for people not to have children. Sex was not created for human gratification, it was created to be a functioning process for reproduction. Birth control perverts the process in a completely unnatural and unintended way. The introduction of widespread birth control massively changed society and it’s difficult to see any of those changes as improvements.

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Attempting to divorce the sex act from pro-creation is one of our more modern perversions.

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“However, there is no sin in sex within marriage and there’s no sin for committed couples to use birth control that doesn’t endanger any children who do result and who would never consider abortion for serendipitous pregnancies.”

If children are a gift from God, you are saying, no God, don’t bless me with children. You are supposed to embrace God’s blessings, not reject them.

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"(Married people:) the year is 2012, not 1612, go see a doc, he can fix you in about five minutes. "

Apparently mutilating yourself is ok these days.

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“If you don’t want any more kids, then exercise a tiny bit of self-control and make use of the woman’s naturally occurring infertile periods, rather than mutilating yourself chemically or surgically.”

I agree. I have many friends who use chemical contraceptives (which is against their pronounced faith), and it annoys me. I, however, have never lectured them on what they’re doing since they don’t care to listen anyway. I instead like to talk about how wonderful it is to rear a child, and how grateful I am to have the experience. It’s the only way I know to testify without brow beating their personal choice (to which they already have been taught the consequence).

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While you are at it, try not using any medicine, because you are perverting natural events used to thin out the human population and prevent us from living too long

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"Low birthrates also hurt the economy as we’ve seen in Japan and Europe. They make a society weaker, less productive and gradually smaller.

God didn’t intend to make it easy for people not to have children. Sex was not created for human gratification, it was created to be a functioning process for reproduction. Birth control perverts the process in a completely unnatural and unintended way. The introduction of widespread birth control massively changed society and it’s difficult to see any of those changes as improvements."

Nailed it!
And in society it has a disparate impact. Stupid women don't practice effective birth control but smart women do.

Just visit a high school or college to see the inevitable results.

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It’s not about birth control. It’s not about abortion. The real issue is a culture and tax structure that discourages middle-class women from wanting lots of kids.

---Somehow I find this even morn insulting than a lot of the pro-life arguments. Like, "oh, hello middle class lady, you don't want kids? poor you, your little mind just doesn't *know* you want a lot of babies!!!"

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As a married person who doesn't want any more children, so what?
Just because it is convenient and it is something I want doesn't translate to it being right or good. And no, I am not Catholic.

Birth control is a cornerstone of both the sexual revolution and the modern 2.4 children lifestyle. Both have had large negative effects on Western society.

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This is Rick’s personal opinion.
Every politician has personal opinions - the question is...what will they do in office?

Our current president thinks abortion should be available up to the day of birth.
He thinks infants who survive abortion should not have to be given medical treatment.
Heck..he has alot of frightening opinions.

Which person is preferrable as a president?

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“[[response to someone saying the Muslims and Mexicans are outbreeding Freepers]]

The large litters you speak of tend to be on govt support - something I won’t do.”

What an ignorant & baseless comment. Exactly WHOM are you speaking of when you say “large litters”? I know many, many Catholic families of 5+ children who do not receive ANY gov assistance.

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“Treating women like breeding machines is far more harmful to society. It is also reminiscent of the attitude towards women-as-cattle in Islamic countries.”

Who here is advocating that we treat women as breeding machines? You sound more like a Feminazi who is resentful of her ability to bear & mother children.

Perhaps you ought to read the Catholic Church’s teachings on AUTHENTIC feminity, not that garbage peddled by the women’s rights movement & Cosmopolitan magazine.

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"Who here is advocating that we treat women as breeding machines? You sound more like a Feminazi who is resentful of her ability to bear & mother children."

ROFLMAO! Every sperm is sacred!

Actually, I've found motherhood to be the most rewarding job I've ever had. But the more children you have, the less time can be devoted to each of them.

"Perhaps you ought to read the Catholic Church’s teachings on AUTHENTIC feminity, not that garbage peddled by the women’s rights movement & Cosmopolitan magazine."

Why is it that every time a woman wants to control some aspect of her reproductive life (through non-lethal means), she is called a Feminazi??? I maintain that those of you who would allow your wives to continue popping out baby after baby have no idea the of the physical or psychological cost to some women...nor would you even care. Thus, that mentality imho falls into the realm of animal husbandry, and not that of a human husband.

Therefore, the analogy to the Islamic view of femininity would seem to be correct.

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Has the thought ever occurred that some married couples still like to have sex but have already had a family and don’t want to take on more children then they can afford?

Or is God against that too?

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He's absolutely right on this topic. That said, if you believe that President Santorum would attempt to push legislation outlawing birth control, you're crazy.

People should opt out of birth control of their own free will because it's bad for them--particularly for women.

By the way, this might be one of my favorite posts in a while. I even had to leave out a complicated debate on whether use of condom/the pull-out method was Onanism and thus prohibited by God.