Summary: "Some on the far left have begun to claim that Jesus Christ and the Holy Bible advocate socialism and preach against capitalism. While this notion gives many conservative Christians angst, it is an ideal that is quickly gaining steam among atheists (and some left-leaning believers) who find themselves more on the fiscally-liberal side of the political spectrum."
Jesus live under the corrupt rule of Rome. He certainly didn’t expect Rome to take care of the poor.
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Whenever some socialist tells me that I need to advocate a socialist takeover of the government because Jesus was a communist I tell them that ... if they really wish to do that ... takeover the government with socialism because Jesus was a socialist ... then EVERY PERSON IN POWER HAS TO BE A CHRISTIAN AND HAS TO BE DEVOUTLY SO AND TESTED FOR IT EVERY MONTH.
That shuts them up pretty quickly.
--- Socialists telling him that as a Christian he needs to advocate a socialist uprising? Where the hell does this guy live?
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charity is not socialism. O, for gawdsakes...this is reality 101.
"Thou shalt not steal" is an affirmation of property rights, which socialism denies, iirc.
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Although Jesus said, “Render unto Caesar, that which is Caesar’s”, He never said that folks shouldn’t work for a living.
Joseph worked as a carpenter. Jesus didn’t condemn him for working for a living. To the contrary, if anything Jesus benefited from hard labor and a meager living on what his earthly father could provide for him and Mary.
Jesus did say it would be harder for a rich man to enter heaven, than it would be for him to enter through the eye of a needle. Even that could be interpreted several ways, because there was an entry way into Jerusalem (or some city in the area) know as the needle.
I have always thought that he was trying to say that the temptations for people of means, was very strong.
When it came to the poor, and the tradition of allowing the poor to reap the chaff, or leftovers in the field, Jesus never said that the poor should get everything.
The left loves to screw with religious concepts. They don’t respect religion, and it’s fair game to them. They don’t worry about judgment day nearly as much as they should.
Hardly any of us do, but I try to be respectful about religious matters. They don’t. They would use Jesus to jaundice people about good values. Shame on them.
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Show me even one government program that Jesus ever supported, and then I will consider the argument.
The ironic thing is, to the Left, government IS their religion.
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The comparison is a non sequitor.
Christ is not limited...is neither...and is both.
These are distinctions necessary because man is a flawed being incapable of governing himself.
Capitalism cannot survive without being tempered and regulated (outside of government) by Him. Socialism fears truth and therefore Him
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But in my opinion, He is the ultimate (l)ibertarian.
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Jesus didn’t get into politics, since his kingdom isn’t of this world.
He didn’t do anything to either go for or against Rome. When pressed, he gave a coin out of a fish’s mouth for taxes.
Jesus was generally against lying, theft, murder and the oppression and killing of his followers. Socialism, being iniquity in state form, is probably not the way he rolls.
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My own take on the matter is that Jesus saw people who got rich out of a sense of obligation and who really didn't desire wealth. By telling them to sell their goods and donate the proceeds to the poor, he was freeing them from a false value system (i.e., propitiating Mammon as an obligation.)
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Jesus never said “Steal or take from your neighbor so you can help the needy”.
He did say “GIVE”.
Socialists BELIEVE in the TAKING. Conservatives much more in the GIVING.
These are actual quotes on current and past news topics from members of the far right forum FreeRepublic.
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Thursday, August 18, 2011
Tuesday, June 28, 2011
"We're All Communists Now"
Summary: The article's from WND, so a summary would be useless. Let's just say the article describes how the activities of the Communist Party in the US, "brazenly openly operating since 1919", have succeeded and we're all commies.
The American public is the proverbial frog in the pot of boiling water. The heat has been turned up slowly, not fast. Obama didn’t foist Socialism on us—its been going on for 80 years, including under Republican presidents.
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[Communism in the US] started in the mid-1800 to early 1900s when the first government schools were foisted upon Americans. Gone was the father's responsibility to educate his children. Government schools were like any virus. First there is the infection. It takes a while for the actual disease to manifest itself with symptoms.
If generations of children attend schools that socialist-funded, collectivist and voter mob managed, prison-like, filled with watered down and generic Protestantism, and compulsory, the following will happen in one to three generations:
** IRS,
** federal reserve,
** unions,
** feminism,
** League of Nations,
** Wilson,
** usurpation of large tracts of state land for federal parks,
** FDR and the New Deal
** abolishment of the ownership of gold,
** ...etc.
Simply by attending prison-like government schools since the mid-1800, generations of children have become comfortable with:
** socialism
** collectivism
** government compulsion
** GODLESSNESS
** prison-like behavior as seen in the airport screening and elsewhere
** voter mob control of their lives, deaths, and even “correct” thinking
It is possible to turn this nation around...BUT...closing down the government schools and getting children into private and conservative schools must be a major part of the plan.
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We should have a Constitutional amendment outlawing Communists and Islam.
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And don’t criticize Muslims flying airliners with passengers into building with people in them. You aren’t allowed to say anything against them.
Second article: "Public Schools and Libraries: The Failure of Socialism"
Summary: It's a video, so I can't give better context than the title here at work. Sorry!
Homeschooling is much better for children then public schools which by now teach nothing but liberal propaganda.
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It’s funny....we functioned well without a national education agenda until the 1970s. We were fifty different state agendas...and pretty much based on what the local district wanted to do or not do. If they didn’t have money...they said so and you had find money via bond programs or just toss out costly requirements. Seems like we did ok for 170-odd years.
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Actually this whole mess started with LBJ “Great Society” programs. In 1965, he signed the Elementary and Secondary Education Act and the Higher Education Act of 1965. The US Department of Education building is named after him.
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My sister makes $130/hr from multiple libraries all across nassau county in Long Island, NY. She went in looking to make $30/hr, they told her the going rate was $100/hr and over the last 3-4 years gave her raises.
She teaches arts & crafts once or twice a week.
Oh the library also teaches yoga!!! Got to compete with the gym after all.. The gym probably pays their teacher $30 /hr..
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American schools brainwash children to accept socialism. Look at the numbers of public schooled kids who voted for N0bama vs homeschooled kids who voted for him. The message is clear.
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That's why I'm against taxes and looking at conservative liberty theories. I didn't ask for those schools or libraries so why does the gov. FORCE me to pay for them? Taxes are killing me.
Kids if your parents can't afford private school or don't have the resources or don't want to homeschool then DONT GO. Liberal state education is poison. You can educate yourself by reading the Bible, using the internet and watching the news. Most of what you learn in gov. school won't even help you in real life.
I want to know how many teachers in gov. schools are socialists or have socialist leanings. I would guess 90% do and the 10% who don't won't dare say they don't.
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Face it. America’s children think there too educated for their own good these days. People in my extended family have just graduated from college with liberal arts degrees and can’t find a job up to their “standards”, but won’t take a low-end job because they “went to college” and those jobs arent “good enough”. I see that with a lot of other American kids. Even kids who graduate from gov. schools think there too educated to be working their way up by starting at McDonalds. No wonder all our manufacturing jobs are going to illegals and China. College-”educated” Americans won’t do them. Let the responsible Americans homeschool or pay for private schools for their children. The children of the irresponsible will be our next labor force and b/c of that more Americans will be willing to do the jobs illegals and China are taking.
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Let businessmen open their own libraries if people need libraries so much but leave MY HARD EARNED MONEY alone.
The American public is the proverbial frog in the pot of boiling water. The heat has been turned up slowly, not fast. Obama didn’t foist Socialism on us—its been going on for 80 years, including under Republican presidents.
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[Communism in the US] started in the mid-1800 to early 1900s when the first government schools were foisted upon Americans. Gone was the father's responsibility to educate his children. Government schools were like any virus. First there is the infection. It takes a while for the actual disease to manifest itself with symptoms.
If generations of children attend schools that socialist-funded, collectivist and voter mob managed, prison-like, filled with watered down and generic Protestantism, and compulsory, the following will happen in one to three generations:
** IRS,
** federal reserve,
** unions,
** feminism,
** League of Nations,
** Wilson,
** usurpation of large tracts of state land for federal parks,
** FDR and the New Deal
** abolishment of the ownership of gold,
** ...etc.
Simply by attending prison-like government schools since the mid-1800, generations of children have become comfortable with:
** socialism
** collectivism
** government compulsion
** GODLESSNESS
** prison-like behavior as seen in the airport screening and elsewhere
** voter mob control of their lives, deaths, and even “correct” thinking
It is possible to turn this nation around...BUT...closing down the government schools and getting children into private and conservative schools must be a major part of the plan.
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We should have a Constitutional amendment outlawing Communists and Islam.
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And don’t criticize Muslims flying airliners with passengers into building with people in them. You aren’t allowed to say anything against them.
Second article: "Public Schools and Libraries: The Failure of Socialism"
Summary: It's a video, so I can't give better context than the title here at work. Sorry!
Homeschooling is much better for children then public schools which by now teach nothing but liberal propaganda.
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It’s funny....we functioned well without a national education agenda until the 1970s. We were fifty different state agendas...and pretty much based on what the local district wanted to do or not do. If they didn’t have money...they said so and you had find money via bond programs or just toss out costly requirements. Seems like we did ok for 170-odd years.
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Actually this whole mess started with LBJ “Great Society” programs. In 1965, he signed the Elementary and Secondary Education Act and the Higher Education Act of 1965. The US Department of Education building is named after him.
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My sister makes $130/hr from multiple libraries all across nassau county in Long Island, NY. She went in looking to make $30/hr, they told her the going rate was $100/hr and over the last 3-4 years gave her raises.
She teaches arts & crafts once or twice a week.
Oh the library also teaches yoga!!! Got to compete with the gym after all.. The gym probably pays their teacher $30 /hr..
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American schools brainwash children to accept socialism. Look at the numbers of public schooled kids who voted for N0bama vs homeschooled kids who voted for him. The message is clear.
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That's why I'm against taxes and looking at conservative liberty theories. I didn't ask for those schools or libraries so why does the gov. FORCE me to pay for them? Taxes are killing me.
Kids if your parents can't afford private school or don't have the resources or don't want to homeschool then DONT GO. Liberal state education is poison. You can educate yourself by reading the Bible, using the internet and watching the news. Most of what you learn in gov. school won't even help you in real life.
I want to know how many teachers in gov. schools are socialists or have socialist leanings. I would guess 90% do and the 10% who don't won't dare say they don't.
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Face it. America’s children think there too educated for their own good these days. People in my extended family have just graduated from college with liberal arts degrees and can’t find a job up to their “standards”, but won’t take a low-end job because they “went to college” and those jobs arent “good enough”. I see that with a lot of other American kids. Even kids who graduate from gov. schools think there too educated to be working their way up by starting at McDonalds. No wonder all our manufacturing jobs are going to illegals and China. College-”educated” Americans won’t do them. Let the responsible Americans homeschool or pay for private schools for their children. The children of the irresponsible will be our next labor force and b/c of that more Americans will be willing to do the jobs illegals and China are taking.
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Let businessmen open their own libraries if people need libraries so much but leave MY HARD EARNED MONEY alone.
Monday, June 13, 2011
Request: Joe McCarthy
This was requested by Jackson Herring. I used a wide variety of posts about McCarthy, including one with the title "Liberal Idiots Slander McCarthy Again" and another with the title "Peter King Compared to McCarthy, As If McCarthy Was Wrong". Just thought you'd want to know.
First off, let me state that I don’t have much knowledge of Sen. McCarthy. It seems to me, however, that he was right. The left coast is still infested with communists, and they infect their kids with it too, on purpose. They are zealots, and government is their religion.
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One only needs to skim the action items in the Communist Manifesto, and overlay it on our history for the last 50 years, to see that Joe McCarthy was right.
Wouldn’t it be great if we could finally correct the definition of “McCarthyism” to be “a patriotic concern for one’s country”?
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I have to admit I was ignorant too. The funny thing is I never fell for the lie that McCarthy was on a wild witch hunt blaming innocent people. My gut told me McCarthy was a good man being destroyed, now I'm learning the facts that back up what my gut was telling me. So I bought the book "Blacklisted by History", and I'll probably buy several more on the subject.
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“And now they’ve apparently taken over the White House, when formerly they were just “advisors” and lower level functionaries.”
Spot on, Lydia. As well as the slow but certain take over of “mainstream” media and public education. And the suppression of individual freedom and responsibility and the promotion of group-think.
But there’s still no shortage of starry-eyed, would-be young communists who say “it just hasn’t been done right yet”.
Tell that to the millions who have died as a direct result of this great social experiment.
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the communists targeted american jews especially during the McCarthy era.
In that period Stalin started a holocaust against russian jews. The pretext was that his jewish doctors were out to kill him.
Canny American communists saw the McCarthy hearing as russian style show trials—which were considered to be a pretext to a purge. So they initiated blood libel against american conservatives via McCarthy—accusing them of attempting to do to american jews what Stalin was about to do russian jews.
That was never in the cards. But the blood libel stuck
---Amazingly, this article is from before Sarah Palin accused the left of blood libel.
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Funny how american communists stealing atom bomb secrets and giving them to the Soviets gets FORGOTTEN.. and decades of western cold war economic torture happened.. not to speak of FDR literaly GIVEING Stalin the eastern block countrys like he OWNED THEM..
The same communists that were in FDR's administration and were also in Trumans administration..
Wonder how many other military and other technological secrets american democrats(communists) STOLE... and other crimes of sedition and espionage they committed.. Like submarine, missile and satellite technologys..
AND have continued to steal ever SINCE....
NOTE: When is communism(socialism) going to outlawed as a political disease?.. Because it is a pariah everywhere it is tried... Actually they don't try it.. the communists just take over and disallow any other partys to exist. Because communism IS A political disease.. not an ideology/choice..
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I’ve always wondered if McCarthy’s drinking was a chicken/egg thing—considering the abuse he suffered for trying to protect America—is it possible that operatives knew his weakness & exploited it, driving him to an early death?
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McCarthy brought public a list of 57 known communists working for the state department
And I firmly believe Ann Coulter, who said a few years ago, that NOT ONE person was ever falsly accused. They gave Metzembaum-ish answers like, "How could you accuse me of that?" and "How dare you accuse me of that?", no answers of which would answer the simple question of "Are you now, or have ever been a member of the communist part?"
Can you imagine how many sensitive national secrets have been raided by these anti-Americans in not only D.C. but in our very White House?
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[ the Rosenbergs who had stolen the plans to the nuclear bomb.]
AND don't forget to add.. started the long and costly Cold War..
The Soviets saved large amounts of money and resources and TIME.. because of the Rosenbergs "GIFT"..
It has been proven that Stalin financed the American Communist Party.. and more or less "Directed IT".
There were many many american traitors that were NOT exposed and prosecuted..
Some of them trained, the people that trained, many of those in the White House right now..
AND are professors in Americas best colleges.. currently..
Training even more treasonous sons of b!tches NOW..
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Of course. But it was more than that. Good ole Ike & co. at the White House sided with the dems against McCarthy and everything he stood for. It’s absolutely amazing what “history” has chosen to forget—Joe McCarthy was more popular than the now-revered Dwight Eisehower!
And another thing that’s been bothering me. “The Kennedys.”
The film mentions that Bobby worked for the “McClellan Committee.” Well, yes, but long after McClennan left, when Joe McCarthy hired him (one of JRM’s few mistakes)! Bobby owed whatever start he had to Joe McCarthy. John beat Henry Cabot Lodge ONLY because Joe McCarthy chose not to campaign for Lodge in the Mass. senate-race. Then, Mr. Profiles-in-Courage himself is too sick to vote for or against Joe’s censure.
I think Joe’s rolled over enough in his grave to be exonerated, but that probably won’t happen until the unions—in particular, the teachers’ unions—are crushed entirely.
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Its amazing to me why communism is even legal in the United States..
AND socialism being quasi-legal..
With all the hard evidence that communists have being trying actively to overthrow the United States government..
Not hidden under the covers overthrow but in you're face blatant out in the open attempts..
Then daring you do anything about it.. and bait you to mention it..
The words communist and socialist are rarely mentioned or even alluded at on the floors of congress..
AND ALL Unions are in league with the communist party..
The situation is hyperbolical and hyperbole is order..
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The ACLU is a terrorist organization.
Who gives a rat’s butt what they think.
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McCarthy was right. Marxism, Maoism, communism, socialism, and homosexuality are bad for the country.
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All one needs to know about liberal traitors is documented in “The Venona Secrets: Exposing Soviet Espionage and America’s Traitors” by Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel.
Liberals who flirt with socialism, communism, and marxism are guilty of betraying America. Period.
McCarthy was right.
First off, let me state that I don’t have much knowledge of Sen. McCarthy. It seems to me, however, that he was right. The left coast is still infested with communists, and they infect their kids with it too, on purpose. They are zealots, and government is their religion.
*
One only needs to skim the action items in the Communist Manifesto, and overlay it on our history for the last 50 years, to see that Joe McCarthy was right.
Wouldn’t it be great if we could finally correct the definition of “McCarthyism” to be “a patriotic concern for one’s country”?
*
I have to admit I was ignorant too. The funny thing is I never fell for the lie that McCarthy was on a wild witch hunt blaming innocent people. My gut told me McCarthy was a good man being destroyed, now I'm learning the facts that back up what my gut was telling me. So I bought the book "Blacklisted by History", and I'll probably buy several more on the subject.
*
“And now they’ve apparently taken over the White House, when formerly they were just “advisors” and lower level functionaries.”
Spot on, Lydia. As well as the slow but certain take over of “mainstream” media and public education. And the suppression of individual freedom and responsibility and the promotion of group-think.
But there’s still no shortage of starry-eyed, would-be young communists who say “it just hasn’t been done right yet”.
Tell that to the millions who have died as a direct result of this great social experiment.
*
the communists targeted american jews especially during the McCarthy era.
In that period Stalin started a holocaust against russian jews. The pretext was that his jewish doctors were out to kill him.
Canny American communists saw the McCarthy hearing as russian style show trials—which were considered to be a pretext to a purge. So they initiated blood libel against american conservatives via McCarthy—accusing them of attempting to do to american jews what Stalin was about to do russian jews.
That was never in the cards. But the blood libel stuck
---Amazingly, this article is from before Sarah Palin accused the left of blood libel.
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Funny how american communists stealing atom bomb secrets and giving them to the Soviets gets FORGOTTEN.. and decades of western cold war economic torture happened.. not to speak of FDR literaly GIVEING Stalin the eastern block countrys like he OWNED THEM..
The same communists that were in FDR's administration and were also in Trumans administration..
Wonder how many other military and other technological secrets american democrats(communists) STOLE... and other crimes of sedition and espionage they committed.. Like submarine, missile and satellite technologys..
AND have continued to steal ever SINCE....
NOTE: When is communism(socialism) going to outlawed as a political disease?.. Because it is a pariah everywhere it is tried... Actually they don't try it.. the communists just take over and disallow any other partys to exist. Because communism IS A political disease.. not an ideology/choice..
*
I’ve always wondered if McCarthy’s drinking was a chicken/egg thing—considering the abuse he suffered for trying to protect America—is it possible that operatives knew his weakness & exploited it, driving him to an early death?
*
McCarthy brought public a list of 57 known communists working for the state department
And I firmly believe Ann Coulter, who said a few years ago, that NOT ONE person was ever falsly accused. They gave Metzembaum-ish answers like, "How could you accuse me of that?" and "How dare you accuse me of that?", no answers of which would answer the simple question of "Are you now, or have ever been a member of the communist part?"
Can you imagine how many sensitive national secrets have been raided by these anti-Americans in not only D.C. but in our very White House?
*
[ the Rosenbergs who had stolen the plans to the nuclear bomb.]
AND don't forget to add.. started the long and costly Cold War..
The Soviets saved large amounts of money and resources and TIME.. because of the Rosenbergs "GIFT"..
It has been proven that Stalin financed the American Communist Party.. and more or less "Directed IT".
There were many many american traitors that were NOT exposed and prosecuted..
Some of them trained, the people that trained, many of those in the White House right now..
AND are professors in Americas best colleges.. currently..
Training even more treasonous sons of b!tches NOW..
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Of course. But it was more than that. Good ole Ike & co. at the White House sided with the dems against McCarthy and everything he stood for. It’s absolutely amazing what “history” has chosen to forget—Joe McCarthy was more popular than the now-revered Dwight Eisehower!
And another thing that’s been bothering me. “The Kennedys.”
The film mentions that Bobby worked for the “McClellan Committee.” Well, yes, but long after McClennan left, when Joe McCarthy hired him (one of JRM’s few mistakes)! Bobby owed whatever start he had to Joe McCarthy. John beat Henry Cabot Lodge ONLY because Joe McCarthy chose not to campaign for Lodge in the Mass. senate-race. Then, Mr. Profiles-in-Courage himself is too sick to vote for or against Joe’s censure.
I think Joe’s rolled over enough in his grave to be exonerated, but that probably won’t happen until the unions—in particular, the teachers’ unions—are crushed entirely.
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Its amazing to me why communism is even legal in the United States..
AND socialism being quasi-legal..
With all the hard evidence that communists have being trying actively to overthrow the United States government..
Not hidden under the covers overthrow but in you're face blatant out in the open attempts..
Then daring you do anything about it.. and bait you to mention it..
The words communist and socialist are rarely mentioned or even alluded at on the floors of congress..
AND ALL Unions are in league with the communist party..
The situation is hyperbolical and hyperbole is order..
*
The ACLU is a terrorist organization.
Who gives a rat’s butt what they think.
*
McCarthy was right. Marxism, Maoism, communism, socialism, and homosexuality are bad for the country.
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All one needs to know about liberal traitors is documented in “The Venona Secrets: Exposing Soviet Espionage and America’s Traitors” by Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel.
Liberals who flirt with socialism, communism, and marxism are guilty of betraying America. Period.
McCarthy was right.
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