"...Romans says all rulers are established by God. So what does established mean and was Obama, "established by God"? My opinion is established may literally mean, "allowed to happen", or, "didn't prevent it from happening". I have a hard time as a Christian believing a deceiving, white man hating dictator would be put in place by God."
No, it was Allah.
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No, it was a combination of idiot voters and so called conservatives who stayed home to allow an 0bama presidency.
God believes in free will.
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IMO because abortion has been and continues to be legal and homosexuality and other assorted perversions are being pushed to become legal God has temporarily removed His hand from our country. He is letting us fend for ourselves for the time being.
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From what I've read in the Bible, God allows for his chosen people to endure terrible rulers when we choose to turn away from Him.
When the ruler screws up, it is the people who suffer God's wrath.
Compared to some of the leaders the Israelites endured, as well as the immense suffering they experienced as a result of ungodly leadership, we're getting off easy.
That being said... I sincerely fear God's fair and equitable judgment against those who choose to turn away from Him.
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Using that interpretation Hitler, that Achmadinijad(sp?), and the Taliban were all put into place by God... I don’t think there’s any way to argue that’s the case. If it were the case, there would be little point in polls or voting, since the winner of an election would be picked by God either way.
If I’ve said something heretical I apologize, but a little common sense has to be applied to some things. Man, and the things men do,are often completely independent of what God wants them to do - else events like the Flood would never have been necessary.
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In recent months, with the help of our pastor, I have come to realize that there is a diferrence between God’s permissive will and his directed will. He will let us do “things our own way” if we want (hence the “free will” comment above) and sometimes there is just a lesson in it when he “allows” us something. Then there is “clearly not His will”, like Zero. I fear, like Reynauldus Maximus said, “...the first step into a thousand years of darkness...” has been taken and there really is just no way back now.
Unless we can “kick New York and California out” we are sort of “stuck on stupid”. Even people who seem to “get it” are whining about “My Medicare” or “My Social Security”. Like the bell, there really just isn’t a way to “unring” it.
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No. God allows people to make choices and live with the consequences. The timing was right for a devil like Obama. Look at our cultural decline. Look at our corruption and immorality that we now LAUGH at. Look at how others ENVY what others have. Look at how people have become self absorbed, haughty and greedy. It's clear to me that in Obama, many liked the idea of “spreading the wealth around”. Many do’t want to work for it. Many defend homosexuality. It all goes together. The majority of people elected someone like them.
Yes, there is now voters remorse, but it's too late. Hopefully in November we will make Obama a lame duck President and try to roll back at least some of the damage. Not all can be corrected. Obama’s Supreme Court Justice picks are EVIL. One is certainly a lesbian. Again, people defend homosexuality and humanism.
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God is in control and there is no plan “B”. We get the rulers we deserve. Just as the Jew got the rulers they asked for, we too are smug in our piety and can “see” why we are being punished. Try 50 million dead babies! Try more and more states with homosexual marriage. Try the removal of even the mention of God from polite society. Try no prayer in school, fornication and adultery at record rates, divorce, churches failing, pastors fornicating with the church members, priests fornicating with alter boys, apostate teaching from the pulpits, ......well, I could go on, but you get the idea. We are but filthy rags in His sight, but we still go into the sunlight with heads held high
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This is the end of an age. The Bible says that God allows things to get bad so we will return to Him. The sages lose their wisdom, the judges take bribes, but soon justice will return (think Carter, then restoration with Reagan, then the ABSCAM scandal). The wheels of justice turn slowly but grind exceedingly fine.
The counter-reaction will bring someone to your liking soon enough.
Haven't you figured out yet that God chooses all the cast members for this story.
Be patient- The wheel is turning. The thrill is gone.....
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"Is this the same god that inflicks terrible illness and unimaginable suffering on newborn babies each day? Allows a small child to endure horrible abuses at the hands of a hateful parent, rape and molestation by a friend or relative? Free will has nothing to do with a newborn being stricken with a horrible illness and a painful death.”
Actually, it does indeed.
Newborns suffering, horrible illnesses and painful deaths are all the result of sin.
When you sin, you ask for evil to continue in the world. Every time.
Have you sinned today? I believe I know you did. You accused God of evil.
So you sin, you endorse evil in the world, and you blame God for it. That is very wicked.
We are the ones, as a people, who brought sin and its consequences into the world.
God is the one who destroys sin and delivers us from its grasp. What did Jesus do on the cross? He defeated sin and death. So we might be delivered from the odious mess we created.
You are fighting the wrong enemy.
These are actual quotes on current and past news topics from members of the far right forum FreeRepublic.
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Monday, March 26, 2012
Thursday, March 22, 2012
Man calls Obama Muslim, Gingrich doesn't correct
Since when is it Newts job to defend the mooselimb faith?
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“I suppose the Media thinks it’s the GOP candidates’ job to “defend” Obama.”
My first thought exactly.
Unfortunately, Ace McCain and Romney set themnselves up to personally protect Hussein’s “honor”.
And Big Media rewards them by calling them “moderate”.
Up yours, “Mav”!
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The media actually wanted Gingrich to be accurate and say “I have no idea what Obama’s religion actually is...although he professes to be Christian based on his 20 years of attendance at a Chicago ‘church’ that preached hatred of Jews and America and his appearance at few scant services thereafter for photo-ops”?
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"I believe President Obama is a Christian," Gingrich said. "He says he's a Christian, he went to a Christian church for over 20 years, and I believe him."
Obama DID NOT go to a Christian Church. He went to a Black Liberation Theology church.
BLT says that if God is not for the Black man and against the White, "we should kill him (God)."
What ever that is...it isn't Christian!
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"Gingrich spokesman R.C. Hammond added that Gingrich "has said several times in the past that he believes President Obama is a Christian."
"We also believe he is an American. We also believe he is a very nice guy.""
Newt! We have US citizens who hate this country, and it's Constitution, and want it destroyed.
We have US citizens who love this country and it's Constitution and want it to succeed;those are Americans.
Obama may be a US citizen but he is not an American.
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Look, it's quite simple. if we accept Obama's birth story at face value (the one in Ayers' his book and supported by the birth records put forward), then his father is Barack Obama, a Kenyan Muslim.
By Muslim tradition, the child of a Muslim father is automatically a Muslim (contrast with Judaism, where the child of a Jewish mother is automatically a Jew). Barack Obama II is therefore either a Muslim or an apostate Muslim (and a birthright Muslim who denies the faith is the worst kind of apostate in Muslim teaching).
Or he's lying about who his father is.
It's one or the other.
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He is a Muslim by birth. Now if he was later converted or if he was baptized into a Christian Church then he could refute the allegation. Now where is Obama’s baptismal record?
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Shove it up your smelly collective Obamas.
And Obama makes a h*ll of a better Muslim than he does any other faith. (E.G., he knows nothing about economics, he lies through every oriface, and he’s a canccer upon civilization.)
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Funny how they’re oh-so-sensitive about the really damaging truths:
0bama’s not an American.
He’s a Muslim.
The left in general has a communist, anti-American agenda.
The left in general hates Christianity.
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Bill Maher calls Sarah Palin a bitch and a whore, and HBO, nor CNN doesn’t correct.
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My way of saying it to libs in denial -
Let’s say 0bama isn’t a Muslim sympathizer/Marxist/racist/etc -
how would he be acting differently than he is if he were?
The usual “rebuttal” is “that’s absurd”.
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How is Newt supposed to know whether or not Obama is a Muslim? He doesn’t know any more about Obama than we do
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“I suppose the Media thinks it’s the GOP candidates’ job to “defend” Obama.”
My first thought exactly.
Unfortunately, Ace McCain and Romney set themnselves up to personally protect Hussein’s “honor”.
And Big Media rewards them by calling them “moderate”.
Up yours, “Mav”!
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The media actually wanted Gingrich to be accurate and say “I have no idea what Obama’s religion actually is...although he professes to be Christian based on his 20 years of attendance at a Chicago ‘church’ that preached hatred of Jews and America and his appearance at few scant services thereafter for photo-ops”?
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"I believe President Obama is a Christian," Gingrich said. "He says he's a Christian, he went to a Christian church for over 20 years, and I believe him."
Obama DID NOT go to a Christian Church. He went to a Black Liberation Theology church.
BLT says that if God is not for the Black man and against the White, "we should kill him (God)."
What ever that is...it isn't Christian!
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"Gingrich spokesman R.C. Hammond added that Gingrich "has said several times in the past that he believes President Obama is a Christian."
"We also believe he is an American. We also believe he is a very nice guy.""
Newt! We have US citizens who hate this country, and it's Constitution, and want it destroyed.
We have US citizens who love this country and it's Constitution and want it to succeed;those are Americans.
Obama may be a US citizen but he is not an American.
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Look, it's quite simple. if we accept Obama's birth story at face value (the one in Ayers' his book and supported by the birth records put forward), then his father is Barack Obama, a Kenyan Muslim.
By Muslim tradition, the child of a Muslim father is automatically a Muslim (contrast with Judaism, where the child of a Jewish mother is automatically a Jew). Barack Obama II is therefore either a Muslim or an apostate Muslim (and a birthright Muslim who denies the faith is the worst kind of apostate in Muslim teaching).
Or he's lying about who his father is.
It's one or the other.
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He is a Muslim by birth. Now if he was later converted or if he was baptized into a Christian Church then he could refute the allegation. Now where is Obama’s baptismal record?
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Shove it up your smelly collective Obamas.
And Obama makes a h*ll of a better Muslim than he does any other faith. (E.G., he knows nothing about economics, he lies through every oriface, and he’s a canccer upon civilization.)
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Funny how they’re oh-so-sensitive about the really damaging truths:
0bama’s not an American.
He’s a Muslim.
The left in general has a communist, anti-American agenda.
The left in general hates Christianity.
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Bill Maher calls Sarah Palin a bitch and a whore, and HBO, nor CNN doesn’t correct.
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My way of saying it to libs in denial -
Let’s say 0bama isn’t a Muslim sympathizer/Marxist/racist/etc -
how would he be acting differently than he is if he were?
The usual “rebuttal” is “that’s absurd”.
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How is Newt supposed to know whether or not Obama is a Muslim? He doesn’t know any more about Obama than we do
Tuesday, December 27, 2011
Obama delivers very Christian message at Christmas tree lighting
Must be an election year. If that man is a Christian I am j. Edgar Hoover!
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I don’t think that the Obamaloon’s religious beliefs (if he has any at all) center around Christianity.
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Obama could not have sat in Wright's church for 20 years and have any real faith in Christ.
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Allah says, it is OK for a Muslim to lie to the Infidels.
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Obama’s Christian beliefs will be evident only when he become pro-life and pro-religious freedom and stops his atheistic socialist attack on America. His word means far too little, now, to be believed. He must take actions in policy. This man is the most anti-Christian politician America has ever experienced and a few words at a tree lighting will do nothing to change that truth and do nothing to change his anti-Christian policies.
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Actually, that's a Moslem message too . He was a manifestation of God’s love for us." -- Moslem's believe that too, but notice, he did not say that Jesus Christ is Lord and GOD, which is what Christians believe and what Moslems consider blasphemy
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“Must be an election year.”
Yep. I am reminded that when the Nazis imperiled the USSR, Stalin reopened a few churches and used religion to rally a dispirited people — that trend sure didn’t last once the war was over.
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This is a pretty watered down “Christian message”. He merely acknkowledges that a man named Jesus was born 2000 years ago and he had a wonderful message of love your neighbor. No orthodox Muslim would disagree with that - that’s exactly how Islam characterizes Jesus - a wise prophet. Note: none of Obama’s “Christian message” is a statement of the Gospel. It is just a “Jesus was a wise man” statement.
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""But this was not just any child," Obama continued. "Christ’s birth made the angels rejoice and attracted shepherds and kings from afar. He was a manifestation of God’s love for us.""
"...a manifestation of God’s love..." falls far short of declaring the rightful Kingship and Diety that is Jesus Christ, that he is Lord of all (not to mention that He will crush the demonic Mohammed under His heel.)
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Obama has been to church only a few times since he became President, and that was basically for fund-raising purposes.
There is ample evidence that he was born and bred a Muslim. And as the Muslims say, once a Muslim, always a Muslim—or, off with your head!
There is zero evidence that he was ever baptized. His Chicago Church was not a real Christian church, and it has a policy of admitting Muslims and others without requiring them to be baptized. It was, in fact, a Black Muslim church with a thin veneer of Christianity to attract more members.
No question in my mind that Obama remains a Muslim, and continues to side with them against whites, Christians, and the West.
His “very Christian” message is carefully worded to avoid saying that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, one Person of the Trinity. Because Muslims are permitted to lie to Christians, but there are some things they would prefer not to say. And one of them, certainly, is that Jesus is Lord and God, and that Mohammed is NOT His prophet.
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Don’t forget, actions speak louder than words
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I don’t think that the Obamaloon’s religious beliefs (if he has any at all) center around Christianity.
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Obama could not have sat in Wright's church for 20 years and have any real faith in Christ.
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Allah says, it is OK for a Muslim to lie to the Infidels.
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Obama’s Christian beliefs will be evident only when he become pro-life and pro-religious freedom and stops his atheistic socialist attack on America. His word means far too little, now, to be believed. He must take actions in policy. This man is the most anti-Christian politician America has ever experienced and a few words at a tree lighting will do nothing to change that truth and do nothing to change his anti-Christian policies.
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Actually, that's a Moslem message too . He was a manifestation of God’s love for us." -- Moslem's believe that too, but notice, he did not say that Jesus Christ is Lord and GOD, which is what Christians believe and what Moslems consider blasphemy
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“Must be an election year.”
Yep. I am reminded that when the Nazis imperiled the USSR, Stalin reopened a few churches and used religion to rally a dispirited people — that trend sure didn’t last once the war was over.
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This is a pretty watered down “Christian message”. He merely acknkowledges that a man named Jesus was born 2000 years ago and he had a wonderful message of love your neighbor. No orthodox Muslim would disagree with that - that’s exactly how Islam characterizes Jesus - a wise prophet. Note: none of Obama’s “Christian message” is a statement of the Gospel. It is just a “Jesus was a wise man” statement.
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""But this was not just any child," Obama continued. "Christ’s birth made the angels rejoice and attracted shepherds and kings from afar. He was a manifestation of God’s love for us.""
"...a manifestation of God’s love..." falls far short of declaring the rightful Kingship and Diety that is Jesus Christ, that he is Lord of all (not to mention that He will crush the demonic Mohammed under His heel.)
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Obama has been to church only a few times since he became President, and that was basically for fund-raising purposes.
There is ample evidence that he was born and bred a Muslim. And as the Muslims say, once a Muslim, always a Muslim—or, off with your head!
There is zero evidence that he was ever baptized. His Chicago Church was not a real Christian church, and it has a policy of admitting Muslims and others without requiring them to be baptized. It was, in fact, a Black Muslim church with a thin veneer of Christianity to attract more members.
No question in my mind that Obama remains a Muslim, and continues to side with them against whites, Christians, and the West.
His “very Christian” message is carefully worded to avoid saying that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, one Person of the Trinity. Because Muslims are permitted to lie to Christians, but there are some things they would prefer not to say. And one of them, certainly, is that Jesus is Lord and God, and that Mohammed is NOT His prophet.
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Don’t forget, actions speak louder than words
Monday, December 12, 2011
71% of Americans celebrate Christmas as a holy day
Summary: "A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 88% of American Adults say they celebrate Christmas, and 81% of this group celebrate it as a religious holiday. Just 16% of those celebrants regard it as a secular holiday."
Ohhh, this will not make the demon-infected left happy.
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I don’t know about the math in this, but overall this is great news. I don’t even mind the 16 percent who celebrate it as a secular holiday because as long as Christmas survives I will be happy. I do feel sorry for kids who attend public schools though....no fun. My kids go to Catholic School and they still have a full Christmas pageant with Mary, Joseph and baby Jesus....not to mention tons of fatty cookies and cakes to eat after. It is just delightful to see that schools still do this type of thing. Unfortunately for public school kids that is not reality.
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“Peace on earth, good will toward all men”... trumps religion.. and politics..
Makes a laughing stock of Marxism and dialectical materialism..
URP has ejected God like a DVD player..
America HAS NOT...
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The world stops on December 25 each year to celebrate the fact that Jesus the Savior was born as a man in the humblest of circumstances.
The thread does not say anything about the actual date of birth.
The day is holy because it is a day to remember that God chose to enter the worlds as a tiny child so that He could make John 3:16 a reality.
If you don’t think that the birth of Christ was holy and the celebration of it is holy then “seasons greetings” to you.
Ohhh, this will not make the demon-infected left happy.
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I don’t know about the math in this, but overall this is great news. I don’t even mind the 16 percent who celebrate it as a secular holiday because as long as Christmas survives I will be happy. I do feel sorry for kids who attend public schools though....no fun. My kids go to Catholic School and they still have a full Christmas pageant with Mary, Joseph and baby Jesus....not to mention tons of fatty cookies and cakes to eat after. It is just delightful to see that schools still do this type of thing. Unfortunately for public school kids that is not reality.
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“Peace on earth, good will toward all men”... trumps religion.. and politics..
Makes a laughing stock of Marxism and dialectical materialism..
URP has ejected God like a DVD player..
America HAS NOT...
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The world stops on December 25 each year to celebrate the fact that Jesus the Savior was born as a man in the humblest of circumstances.
The thread does not say anything about the actual date of birth.
The day is holy because it is a day to remember that God chose to enter the worlds as a tiny child so that He could make John 3:16 a reality.
If you don’t think that the birth of Christ was holy and the celebration of it is holy then “seasons greetings” to you.
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Wednesday, June 29, 2011
Reconciling Ayn Rand with the Gospel
Requested by Anon
Article from American Thinker
Summary: It's fine that Ayn Rand was an atheist because Pope John Paul II probably dug her stuff.
"I know that many Christians read Rand and want to stand up and cheer, but at the same time are racked with guilt because of her atheism and decidedly anti-church professions."
Anti-church? Hardly. Anti-organized, dogmatic institutions, regardless of origin? Absolutely.
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I don't know that much about Ayn Rand. Did she proclaim herself an atheist or was she branded an atheist like Thomas Paine?
I know Paine believed in God but didn't believe that Jesus was the literal Son of God or God in the flesh.
It sounds like Rand may be in that category. But I don't know.
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Everything great in Western Civilization -- the Rights of Man, modern science, free markets -- all stem from the Christian religion.
That's why the leftists hate it so much.
(Of course, a lot stems from Islam too: pedophilia, rape, murder, subjugation of women, jihad, boys humping boys... got to give credit where credit is due.)
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Ayn Rand’s philosophy is interesting but evil. Either God is on the throne of your heart or you are. If you are, then you are serving the Devil himself. Enjoy the ride.
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I love how she flees an atheistic nation to a Christian nation and realizes how good it is but says, “Too bad its not atheistic enough.”
This is a typical liberal problem: after they completely ruin a state with liberalism, they move to a conservative state and think, “Hmm, its so nice here, but it needs to be more liberal!”
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It is interesting that this article if featured at this time of year when Christians commemorate the resurrection. Ayn Rand the objectivist yet she rejects the most objective religious fact, the resurrection. The resurrection actually happened.
Rand was right on her stand against collectivism, I’ll give her that, but as a Christian conservative when you leave out the “Christian” part you can count me out. No wonder she is such a darling of the Libertarians. Rand is an atheist, that’s all I need to know. Her so called objectivism is just so much blah, blah.
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>> “ To argue that the work of atheists be dismissed is to argue for the dismissal of a large percentage of the advances and breakthroughs in mathematics, physics, and biomedical science that have been achieved over the last several centuries.” <<
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Sorry, but that is false.
Until the age of government financing of “research” few atheists produced anything at all.
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Payne sure sounds like an atheist.
"The bottom line is that Paine did believe in God, just not the God of The Bible.
There is no other."
There is no other.
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[argument between two Freepers:]
1: "Apparently you believe one should love his neighbor more than himself. Any liberal would agree with that. Thanks to people like you we have a collectivist society."
2: "Everyone already loves himself. When there’s a fire in a building, who stays in to fry?
Jesus is obviously saying - “You already love and take care of yourselves. So, now you should care about others the way you already care about yourselves.”
But his first commandment is to love God. The second part, which is based upon the first, is to also care about others.
This is not sectarian, but univerally applicable.
And your accusation that caring about others is collectivism is insanely laughable. You will not find less of a collectivist than myself."
1: "Your simplistic interpretation misses the point.
God loves himself first of all yet shows mercy to insolent humans.
Besides, aren’t you the Hindu who promotes wanting the government to dictate to people what they can or cannot do in their private lives"
2: "God’s position and conciousness cannot be imitate by human beings.
Moral absolutes are essentially the same in every religion, that is why they are absolutes.
Private life activities like abortion? Porn? Rest stop sodomy?
Libertarianism is the kook anarchy ultra fringe element of the left."
1: "I'm not familiar with all the terminology or intricacies of your pagan religion but isn't it basically pantheistic? ya know... we all have a spark of divinity or some such? God is in everything... yada yada. What exactly is God's "position" and what is it about his consciousness that cannot be imitated? Moralists of any stripe are all the same. They always contradict themselves claiming they want what's best for their neighbor when in reality they only want to impose their own selfish interests."
2: "Makes no sense. You are basically saying anyone who promites morality is bad; ie - immoral. You sound like a libertarian who wants no holds barred porn, dope, prostitution and homo-agenda everything.
IOW, an immoralitst. People wither promote morality or immorality. Your choice. I make my choice clear. I guess you do too, since you fault me for not supporting dope, porn, prostitution and the homo-agenda."
1: "One of my absolute morals is that anyone who worships a false god deserves death.
Should I have the government enforce that?"
Article from American Thinker
Summary: It's fine that Ayn Rand was an atheist because Pope John Paul II probably dug her stuff.
"I know that many Christians read Rand and want to stand up and cheer, but at the same time are racked with guilt because of her atheism and decidedly anti-church professions."
Anti-church? Hardly. Anti-organized, dogmatic institutions, regardless of origin? Absolutely.
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I don't know that much about Ayn Rand. Did she proclaim herself an atheist or was she branded an atheist like Thomas Paine?
I know Paine believed in God but didn't believe that Jesus was the literal Son of God or God in the flesh.
It sounds like Rand may be in that category. But I don't know.
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Everything great in Western Civilization -- the Rights of Man, modern science, free markets -- all stem from the Christian religion.
That's why the leftists hate it so much.
(Of course, a lot stems from Islam too: pedophilia, rape, murder, subjugation of women, jihad, boys humping boys... got to give credit where credit is due.)
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Ayn Rand’s philosophy is interesting but evil. Either God is on the throne of your heart or you are. If you are, then you are serving the Devil himself. Enjoy the ride.
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I love how she flees an atheistic nation to a Christian nation and realizes how good it is but says, “Too bad its not atheistic enough.”
This is a typical liberal problem: after they completely ruin a state with liberalism, they move to a conservative state and think, “Hmm, its so nice here, but it needs to be more liberal!”
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It is interesting that this article if featured at this time of year when Christians commemorate the resurrection. Ayn Rand the objectivist yet she rejects the most objective religious fact, the resurrection. The resurrection actually happened.
Rand was right on her stand against collectivism, I’ll give her that, but as a Christian conservative when you leave out the “Christian” part you can count me out. No wonder she is such a darling of the Libertarians. Rand is an atheist, that’s all I need to know. Her so called objectivism is just so much blah, blah.
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>> “ To argue that the work of atheists be dismissed is to argue for the dismissal of a large percentage of the advances and breakthroughs in mathematics, physics, and biomedical science that have been achieved over the last several centuries.” <<
.
Sorry, but that is false.
Until the age of government financing of “research” few atheists produced anything at all.
*
Payne sure sounds like an atheist.
"The bottom line is that Paine did believe in God, just not the God of The Bible.
There is no other."
There is no other.
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[argument between two Freepers:]
1: "Apparently you believe one should love his neighbor more than himself. Any liberal would agree with that. Thanks to people like you we have a collectivist society."
2: "Everyone already loves himself. When there’s a fire in a building, who stays in to fry?
Jesus is obviously saying - “You already love and take care of yourselves. So, now you should care about others the way you already care about yourselves.”
But his first commandment is to love God. The second part, which is based upon the first, is to also care about others.
This is not sectarian, but univerally applicable.
And your accusation that caring about others is collectivism is insanely laughable. You will not find less of a collectivist than myself."
1: "Your simplistic interpretation misses the point.
God loves himself first of all yet shows mercy to insolent humans.
Besides, aren’t you the Hindu who promotes wanting the government to dictate to people what they can or cannot do in their private lives"
2: "God’s position and conciousness cannot be imitate by human beings.
Moral absolutes are essentially the same in every religion, that is why they are absolutes.
Private life activities like abortion? Porn? Rest stop sodomy?
Libertarianism is the kook anarchy ultra fringe element of the left."
1: "I'm not familiar with all the terminology or intricacies of your pagan religion but isn't it basically pantheistic? ya know... we all have a spark of divinity or some such? God is in everything... yada yada. What exactly is God's "position" and what is it about his consciousness that cannot be imitated? Moralists of any stripe are all the same. They always contradict themselves claiming they want what's best for their neighbor when in reality they only want to impose their own selfish interests."
2: "Makes no sense. You are basically saying anyone who promites morality is bad; ie - immoral. You sound like a libertarian who wants no holds barred porn, dope, prostitution and homo-agenda everything.
IOW, an immoralitst. People wither promote morality or immorality. Your choice. I make my choice clear. I guess you do too, since you fault me for not supporting dope, porn, prostitution and the homo-agenda."
1: "One of my absolute morals is that anyone who worships a false god deserves death.
Should I have the government enforce that?"
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