"This seals it. He WAS defending himself. As his friend said, it was either Zimmerman or Martin. One would live, one would die. Never bring a fist to a gun fight."
This doesn’t seal it.
‘Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot.’
That negates any self defense argument in my book.
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But how could such a helpless, young, 6’2” football player have been such a threat to Zimmerman? /s
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I don't think the facts, whatever they may be, matter any more. This is now political. The DOJ will assure that Zimmerman is convicted of something. Witnesses and local officials will be gotten to and will either say the right things or be discredited and silenced. Lord Obama has spoken. That's not to say that Zimmerman didn't do something wrong. It simply doesn't matter.
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Wow! It looks like all of Black America owes George Zimmerman an APOLOGY!
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I’m glad that Zimmerman defended himself from this pot-smoking “black” THUG. He saved the Florida taxpayers a lot of money.
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"The evidence will produce the facts, however, the tapes, and Zimmerman ignoring the 911 operator NOT to follow, is going to get Zimmerman a Manslaughter charge at the least. "
You are making things up. The 911 operator suggested not to follow, it was not an order. It is NOT against the law to get out of your vehicle. It is, however, against the law to bash someone's head repeatedly into a sidewalk.
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"That negates any self defense argument in my book."
What "book" would that be? Das Kapitol? Mien Kamph?
In MY book: The Declaration and Constitution, it says INNOCENT. UNTIL. PROVEN. GUILTY. BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.
And say any thing you want about it, the one thing that IS TRUE: There is more than enough doubt to go around.
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Are there any recent photos of Martin posted online?
(Not the young one that Obama said looked like his son, but the bigger, burlier older guy that he really was).
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I once followed a group of black teenagers into a Korean dress shop in Manhattan where they promptly surrounded the female cashier in what I stupidly took to be a somewhat suspicious manner. It turned out they were looking for Size 2 Norma Kamali dresses! (That’s sarcasm.)
Do ANY of you freepers live where frightening black teenagers threaten, rape and murder people???
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No rush to judgement on either side, please.
We have heard some of the statement from Zimmerman. People are jumping on this to prove self-defense.
Let’s wait for a statement from Martin... oh, that’s right, he’s dead.
So that must mean that Zimmerman’s story is rock-solid truth, right????
So, let’s hold on til the investigation takes its course. Be interesting to discover trajectory of bullet, distance traveled...
The evidence won’t lie. Where’s Horatio Caine and his CSI team when needed????
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This “17 year old kid” was 6’2” and a football player at his school from what I read. So don’t let the old pictures of him fool you. Ever wonder why they aren’t showing any recent pictures of him in the media?
He was no small child or innocent angel.
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I assume you are refering to the accusation that Zimmerman said the word “coon.” It has also been reported that he said the word “goon.” I realize that this story is spinning out of control in a manner reminiscent of Rodney King but we all (me, too!) need to get our facts straight.
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"Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot.
That negates any self defense argument in my book."
Does that mean that you think people should ignore suspicious people and activities?
Our society is so feminized that most men today are afraid to confront s suspicious character and possibly prevent that person from ACTUALLY doing possible harm to someone or someone’s property.
Do nothing. Say nothing. Accept the consequences of letting criminals (etc) have free access to your community and possibly to your family or friends and neighbors.
A simple challenge of a suspicious character could possibly prevent an incident & “if” the person is innocent he would possibly appreciate the fact that there are concerned people who are watching and protecting the neighborhood and its residents.
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"Z is calling Tray the ugliest names on a recorded 911 call"
You keep posting that crap......what exactly are those "NAMESs" and note that it is plural, meaning more than once.
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Overzealousness isn’t a crime.
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all some of us want is to let a grand jury decide,, it can send a message to legislators and criminals alike.. and people in hoodies.
let the process grind it thru its gears.
anyone exploiting the situation to do otherwise should be embarassed.
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"Okay, I'm NOT the DA but Stand Your Ground does not mean Move That Ground and pretend you are Barney Fife. Zimmerman was in the wrong neighborhood if he is suspicious of blacks. That complex was very integrated. I'm helping my black neighbor plant flowers next week. Maybe living in an integrated neighborhood gives me a different perspective. I'm well aware of black on black crime tales and if I was black, I'd be watching my back all the time. Black domestic violence is under reported for one thing.
Zimmerman sat on Trayvon's dead body until the cops got there. There's video of that but never mind. Zimmerman had some things going on in his mind that led him to be overzealous. An HOA "guest" is dead. They will be sued. Hope they go bankrupt and some sleazy bank buys the whole complex. I know what HOAs can and cannot do. Shooting people while volunteering is a can't. This is a big civil deal too."
The amount of errors/disinformation/lies/slander in your post is staggering.
WTF are you doing on this particular forum, lost or trolling?
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The NYT is reporting Zimmerman as a white hispanic. They are trying to foment a black on white race war by completely ignoring, or covering up, that Zimmerman is half hispanic.
Watch for the next 'newsworthy' incident where a white can be blamed for 'crimes' against a hispanic. it will demonstrate how even with our first post-racial, magical black Pres__ent, we can never overcome just how violent, racist, and evil whitey is.
This also being an election year and zero slipping in the polls. Expect the 'whitey is evil' drumbeat to get louder and louder.
The Reichstag fire will look like amateur hour. My money says it's going to be a long hot summer.
These are actual quotes on current and past news topics from members of the far right forum FreeRepublic.
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Monday, March 26, 2012
Sunday, January 22, 2012
Giffords to step down from Congress
By the way, the majority of the comments were just short "May she recover well" and "May God help her in her recovery" ones.
We wish her well and a full recovery, but it is time to get another GOP seat in Congress. That could be the next district we live in when we leave CA.
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"Sad, she was a blue dog, I hope the scum who shot her gets to meet Bubba in the prison shower."
She wasn’t a blue dog, unless you mean a lap dog for Pelosi. She never, ever defied the Democrat party on anything. On occasion, she would get a kitchen pass to allow her to vote the way her constituents wanted, but ONLY if her vote wasn’t needed.
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I wish her well. But as for those who made use of her for political purposes, I have little sympathy.
I imagine we’ll see more of that. She was a relatively conservative Democrat, and the district might well go Republican, so I expect the dirty tricksters will pull out all the stops again, blaming her shooting on Sarah Palin and the Christian Conservatives, who had her in their crosshairs.
Playing for the sympathy vote. I hope whoever runs for that district points out that the killer was a crazy, potheaded leftist, who was given a gun permit despite run-ins with the law because his mother was a high-up Democrat player.
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At least SHE cares enough about this Country to know when to step aside ... there are about 400 other Congress members who should do the same ... on both sides of the aisle.
We have to stop paying their salaries ... the original intent was not to make SERVING in Congress a life-long profession.
My gggggreatuncle had to pay his own way when he served in the House representing Virginia and later, Kentucky. Let the States that elect them support them ... with NO contributions from lobbyists or businesses, people, nations. Their pay should come from the people who elected them not from outside their district or State.
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Self-sacrificing? Courageous? Really?
She began "serving" in Congress in January, 2007. She just retired. Why the long wait when it was clear she couldn't fulfill her duties long ago?
Members who participated in the congressional pension system are vested after five (5) years of service.
I won't be so nice about her departure... good riddance, you self-serving grifter. Sadly, you clearly belonged in Congress... your kind of people.
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I feel horrible for ANYONE who has taken a shot to the head and survived to tell about it.
However; a demonRAT, who steps down is a plus for America.
Coldhearted? Yes. But I care more for our country then some lame a$$ demonRAT......who, by the way, was shot by one OF HER OWN.
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No, she was liberal, just not liberal enough for the left-wing nutjob who shot her. Liberal but perhaps grounded a bit more in reality because her district wasn’t exactly like Pelosi’s.
The leftard who shot her was most recently pissed at her that she didn’t vote for Pelosi as minority leader.
--- Uh...what?
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"Yes, she may have timed her announcement after she became vested, but in this case I wouldn't hold it against her. She was not ousted because of some scandal, she took a bullet to her head while performing her duties for her district. She has a long and expensive recovery ahead of her, and I won't begrudge her and her family trying to secure a plan for her now.
She did the right thing in retiring for herself and her district, and good wishes to her."
Spoken like a good little sheep. Tell me... what would you think about a military member with combat-related brain damage hanging out for five years on active duty unable to do his job just to get his full retirement? It makes much more sense to medically retire this person and take care of his combat-related injuries.
It says a lot about our society when we won't begrudge a legislator taking advantage of the system to get us to pay them an income for the rest of their lives but we would prosecute your average soldier who showed such hubris.
We wish her well and a full recovery, but it is time to get another GOP seat in Congress. That could be the next district we live in when we leave CA.
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"Sad, she was a blue dog, I hope the scum who shot her gets to meet Bubba in the prison shower."
She wasn’t a blue dog, unless you mean a lap dog for Pelosi. She never, ever defied the Democrat party on anything. On occasion, she would get a kitchen pass to allow her to vote the way her constituents wanted, but ONLY if her vote wasn’t needed.
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I wish her well. But as for those who made use of her for political purposes, I have little sympathy.
I imagine we’ll see more of that. She was a relatively conservative Democrat, and the district might well go Republican, so I expect the dirty tricksters will pull out all the stops again, blaming her shooting on Sarah Palin and the Christian Conservatives, who had her in their crosshairs.
Playing for the sympathy vote. I hope whoever runs for that district points out that the killer was a crazy, potheaded leftist, who was given a gun permit despite run-ins with the law because his mother was a high-up Democrat player.
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At least SHE cares enough about this Country to know when to step aside ... there are about 400 other Congress members who should do the same ... on both sides of the aisle.
We have to stop paying their salaries ... the original intent was not to make SERVING in Congress a life-long profession.
My gggggreatuncle had to pay his own way when he served in the House representing Virginia and later, Kentucky. Let the States that elect them support them ... with NO contributions from lobbyists or businesses, people, nations. Their pay should come from the people who elected them not from outside their district or State.
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Self-sacrificing? Courageous? Really?
She began "serving" in Congress in January, 2007. She just retired. Why the long wait when it was clear she couldn't fulfill her duties long ago?
Members who participated in the congressional pension system are vested after five (5) years of service.
I won't be so nice about her departure... good riddance, you self-serving grifter. Sadly, you clearly belonged in Congress... your kind of people.
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I feel horrible for ANYONE who has taken a shot to the head and survived to tell about it.
However; a demonRAT, who steps down is a plus for America.
Coldhearted? Yes. But I care more for our country then some lame a$$ demonRAT......who, by the way, was shot by one OF HER OWN.
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No, she was liberal, just not liberal enough for the left-wing nutjob who shot her. Liberal but perhaps grounded a bit more in reality because her district wasn’t exactly like Pelosi’s.
The leftard who shot her was most recently pissed at her that she didn’t vote for Pelosi as minority leader.
--- Uh...what?
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"Yes, she may have timed her announcement after she became vested, but in this case I wouldn't hold it against her. She was not ousted because of some scandal, she took a bullet to her head while performing her duties for her district. She has a long and expensive recovery ahead of her, and I won't begrudge her and her family trying to secure a plan for her now.
She did the right thing in retiring for herself and her district, and good wishes to her."
Spoken like a good little sheep. Tell me... what would you think about a military member with combat-related brain damage hanging out for five years on active duty unable to do his job just to get his full retirement? It makes much more sense to medically retire this person and take care of his combat-related injuries.
It says a lot about our society when we won't begrudge a legislator taking advantage of the system to get us to pay them an income for the rest of their lives but we would prosecute your average soldier who showed such hubris.
Wednesday, November 16, 2011
Gabrielle Giffords wants to feel ‘better’ before returning to D.C.
Article: From the Chicago Sun
Summary: "Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, in her first public interview since she was shot in the head in Tucson last winter, doted on her husband, former astronaut Mark Kelly, and called him “brave, brave, brave” as she kissed his bald head.
Giffords appears on ABC’s “20/20” show Monday night. It’s her first extended interview since the January rampage that killed six people and wounded 13."
(The television interview comes as fellow victims of the shooting came to Washington to testify in favor of a gun-control bill. They said that Giffords’ appearance represents a major milestone for them as it helps them cope with the trauma they’ve endured over the past 10 months.)
That’s where any sympathy I had evaporated immediately. This just becomes another cheap way that the Libs (as Ann Coulter gives so many examples about) trot out people you cannot criticize to push through contravertial laws that they want, that limit liberty for the law-abiding citizen.
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“About a dozen survivors and family members are in Washington lobbying for legislation that would extend criminal background checks to all gun sales and enhance the quality of the FBI’s criminal background checks.”
This is really the central point of this “emo” piece.
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I’ll tell you who is “brave, brave, brave”, it’s the conservative judge who sacrificed his life to save hers. I doubt HE was for gun control, and somehow I don’t think the “reporter” would ask his surviving family members if he did or not. I am so unbelievably disgusted with the lot of them. There is no shame in using anything and everything and everybody to advance their fascist agenda. We saw the same thing with the healthcare debate.
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I know I will be accused of being insensitive and mean-spirited but it seems that she can’t string together cogent complex statements or thoughts. Doesn’t that suggest that she will be unable to understand most complex processes (including understanding and voting on legislation written in legalese that exceed 1000’s of pages)? Maybe just rehabbing and living should be the best course for her. Maybe she should resign?
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This is quickly turning into another democrat freakshow.
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So on one hand, I am told about Giffords incredible recovery and then scolded for opposing her point-of-view?
Sorry, but all this tells me is that one of my enemies has made an incredible recovery.
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The liberals have a real victim this time and will milk it for all it’s worth.
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When I clicked on this thread, I was ready to criticize anyone making a political point at her expense.
Now, I am ready to criticize Giffords, and all other statist liberals, for being so incredibly sleazy.
These people would sell their own mothers, if it would help advance a socialist agenda.
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She’s the perfect democrat. Since when does one need a fully operating brain or the ability to string together a sentence to vote how Nancy Pelosi says you should.
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she'll be back to DC soon, equipped with a 'grunt/drool' button to record her votes...
WOW, i think that mightve been a bit harsh...
eff the commie bee-atch...just another commie foorsoldier willing to fight to the end, like fat-dead-ted...
the whole lot of em remind me of longshanks in Braveheart...to the dying breath, hopin to see the fruits of their lifelong pursuit of evil...
maybe her and jim brady can go on the road and do a duet, between the two, i think theve still got half a brain...
dang, another mean comment??? ask me if i care about either one of their feeeelings as they work tirelessly to kill me...???
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She’s going to do exactly what she would have done had she NOT been shot - ironically, by a Liberal Poster Child Protege. Loughner was one of THEIRS - a PERFECT example of what happens when you absorb liberal BS all your life.
This isn’t a game. It’s for the survival of the country, ultimately, and sentimentality or “compassion” for the enemy only gets them further ahead in their agenda.
I don’t mourn, nor eulogize, nor have compassion for the other side. They would dance on our graves in a heartbeat.
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I heard something this morning about Giffords’ husband jumping ugly on Boehner. I’ve got a question for Kelly: Why the heck didn’t you make certain your wife had police protection at her appearances? You never thought to ask, make an issue? People in glass houses, bud.
Summary: "Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, in her first public interview since she was shot in the head in Tucson last winter, doted on her husband, former astronaut Mark Kelly, and called him “brave, brave, brave” as she kissed his bald head.
Giffords appears on ABC’s “20/20” show Monday night. It’s her first extended interview since the January rampage that killed six people and wounded 13."
(The television interview comes as fellow victims of the shooting came to Washington to testify in favor of a gun-control bill. They said that Giffords’ appearance represents a major milestone for them as it helps them cope with the trauma they’ve endured over the past 10 months.)
That’s where any sympathy I had evaporated immediately. This just becomes another cheap way that the Libs (as Ann Coulter gives so many examples about) trot out people you cannot criticize to push through contravertial laws that they want, that limit liberty for the law-abiding citizen.
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“About a dozen survivors and family members are in Washington lobbying for legislation that would extend criminal background checks to all gun sales and enhance the quality of the FBI’s criminal background checks.”
This is really the central point of this “emo” piece.
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I’ll tell you who is “brave, brave, brave”, it’s the conservative judge who sacrificed his life to save hers. I doubt HE was for gun control, and somehow I don’t think the “reporter” would ask his surviving family members if he did or not. I am so unbelievably disgusted with the lot of them. There is no shame in using anything and everything and everybody to advance their fascist agenda. We saw the same thing with the healthcare debate.
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I know I will be accused of being insensitive and mean-spirited but it seems that she can’t string together cogent complex statements or thoughts. Doesn’t that suggest that she will be unable to understand most complex processes (including understanding and voting on legislation written in legalese that exceed 1000’s of pages)? Maybe just rehabbing and living should be the best course for her. Maybe she should resign?
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This is quickly turning into another democrat freakshow.
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So on one hand, I am told about Giffords incredible recovery and then scolded for opposing her point-of-view?
Sorry, but all this tells me is that one of my enemies has made an incredible recovery.
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The liberals have a real victim this time and will milk it for all it’s worth.
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When I clicked on this thread, I was ready to criticize anyone making a political point at her expense.
Now, I am ready to criticize Giffords, and all other statist liberals, for being so incredibly sleazy.
These people would sell their own mothers, if it would help advance a socialist agenda.
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She’s the perfect democrat. Since when does one need a fully operating brain or the ability to string together a sentence to vote how Nancy Pelosi says you should.
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she'll be back to DC soon, equipped with a 'grunt/drool' button to record her votes...
WOW, i think that mightve been a bit harsh...
eff the commie bee-atch...just another commie foorsoldier willing to fight to the end, like fat-dead-ted...
the whole lot of em remind me of longshanks in Braveheart...to the dying breath, hopin to see the fruits of their lifelong pursuit of evil...
maybe her and jim brady can go on the road and do a duet, between the two, i think theve still got half a brain...
dang, another mean comment??? ask me if i care about either one of their feeeelings as they work tirelessly to kill me...???
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She’s going to do exactly what she would have done had she NOT been shot - ironically, by a Liberal Poster Child Protege. Loughner was one of THEIRS - a PERFECT example of what happens when you absorb liberal BS all your life.
This isn’t a game. It’s for the survival of the country, ultimately, and sentimentality or “compassion” for the enemy only gets them further ahead in their agenda.
I don’t mourn, nor eulogize, nor have compassion for the other side. They would dance on our graves in a heartbeat.
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I heard something this morning about Giffords’ husband jumping ugly on Boehner. I’ve got a question for Kelly: Why the heck didn’t you make certain your wife had police protection at her appearances? You never thought to ask, make an issue? People in glass houses, bud.
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0bama’s base continues to turn on him.
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Is this an attempt to distance Obama from his nutjob supporters in the OWS movement?
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"Probably a plant to boost his brand."
That was my first reaction - setup to try and move the news from SOlyndra, Fast & furious, jobs, economy etc.
Create a 'threat to the President' to try and rally people around him.
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Just a drug deal gone bad. DC is like Chicago, a total war zone outside of those areas frequented by politicians
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The prime suspect:
Oscar Ramiro Ortega.
Probably an illegal or from OWS.
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Don't exclude the possibility that obama, himself, had it done, building toward a "national emergency" delcaration in order to avoid having elections, and to declare himself as "indefinite" president.
The man is pure evil and I would not put anything past him.
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I don’t want this idiot to be a martyr but can’t figure out why foreign govs haven’t tried to take him out. THEY know that when he takes this country down, the entire world goes down.
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Oscar Ramiro Ortega is an Occupier. He’s only 21 and has a long arrest history already. I’m not seeing if he’s an illegal or not. But if he is a resident; he’s probably an anchor baby.
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Another round discovered, bullets found, gun recovered.
All too convenient.
Everything about this shooting benefits this administration.
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More Dems have come out in favor of the Occupy Protesters.
If this guy was indeed a part of that movement, the Republicans will (should?) make every American voter AWARE of the ties and full support by the Democrat Party for these terrorists.
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He's a white hispanic from Idaho. Here is the description of one of his tatoos:
"A fourth tattoo on his left chest has hands clasped in prayer and the words "Israel" on the left side of his neck"
Sorry...but he does not sound too much like a OWS to me. Maybe he is...but they can spin it easily with just that much information into the other.
I hope it is not so...but I have no trust whtsoever in this admin and particularly in the DOJ under Holder.
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I completely disapprove. Whether or not anyone in the current regime has any value to the United States, the White House is a national treasure. It’s disrespectful to shoot such a beautiful and formerly reputable building.
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Is the shooter’s birth name “Lee Harvey Oswald?”
This is so ridiculously set up.
The only good thing about Omoslem is that his Communist regime can’t do anything right. They’re so convinced of their own “smartness” that they routinely botch every operation.
That’s what you get when your cabal is a ragtag band of moslems, communists and anarchists.
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Did you see Diane Sawyer’s interview with Gabby Gifford the other night? The sweet little thing, so brave and dedicated, was being threatened by those nasty, hateful, dangerous tea party people at her town meetings because she supported Obamacare. Sarah Palin had an ad with bullseyes on it for Democrat districts that should be overturned. Once again, the MSM was implying that right wing radicals and Palin were responsible for a climate of fear and intimidation that led to the shooting of Giffords. This has been disproved over and over again but Sawyer and the rest won’t let it go. Every chance they get they exploit it to try to destroy the credibility of Obama’s opponents. And idiots in the electorate believe them.
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I call BS on this one.
Who leaves their weapon at the scene unless they were hit by return fire and incapacitated or something.
Way to convenient.
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I keep waiting for a burning of the Reichstag moment, but I think this bunch is more clever than that. I would they’ll try 1,000 smaller staged events for the same purpose.
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Is this an attempt to distance Obama from his nutjob supporters in the OWS movement?
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"Probably a plant to boost his brand."
That was my first reaction - setup to try and move the news from SOlyndra, Fast & furious, jobs, economy etc.
Create a 'threat to the President' to try and rally people around him.
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Just a drug deal gone bad. DC is like Chicago, a total war zone outside of those areas frequented by politicians
*
The prime suspect:
Oscar Ramiro Ortega.
Probably an illegal or from OWS.
*
Don't exclude the possibility that obama, himself, had it done, building toward a "national emergency" delcaration in order to avoid having elections, and to declare himself as "indefinite" president.
The man is pure evil and I would not put anything past him.
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I don’t want this idiot to be a martyr but can’t figure out why foreign govs haven’t tried to take him out. THEY know that when he takes this country down, the entire world goes down.
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Oscar Ramiro Ortega is an Occupier. He’s only 21 and has a long arrest history already. I’m not seeing if he’s an illegal or not. But if he is a resident; he’s probably an anchor baby.
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Another round discovered, bullets found, gun recovered.
All too convenient.
Everything about this shooting benefits this administration.
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More Dems have come out in favor of the Occupy Protesters.
If this guy was indeed a part of that movement, the Republicans will (should?) make every American voter AWARE of the ties and full support by the Democrat Party for these terrorists.
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He's a white hispanic from Idaho. Here is the description of one of his tatoos:
"A fourth tattoo on his left chest has hands clasped in prayer and the words "Israel" on the left side of his neck"
Sorry...but he does not sound too much like a OWS to me. Maybe he is...but they can spin it easily with just that much information into the other.
I hope it is not so...but I have no trust whtsoever in this admin and particularly in the DOJ under Holder.
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I completely disapprove. Whether or not anyone in the current regime has any value to the United States, the White House is a national treasure. It’s disrespectful to shoot such a beautiful and formerly reputable building.
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Is the shooter’s birth name “Lee Harvey Oswald?”
This is so ridiculously set up.
The only good thing about Omoslem is that his Communist regime can’t do anything right. They’re so convinced of their own “smartness” that they routinely botch every operation.
That’s what you get when your cabal is a ragtag band of moslems, communists and anarchists.
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Did you see Diane Sawyer’s interview with Gabby Gifford the other night? The sweet little thing, so brave and dedicated, was being threatened by those nasty, hateful, dangerous tea party people at her town meetings because she supported Obamacare. Sarah Palin had an ad with bullseyes on it for Democrat districts that should be overturned. Once again, the MSM was implying that right wing radicals and Palin were responsible for a climate of fear and intimidation that led to the shooting of Giffords. This has been disproved over and over again but Sawyer and the rest won’t let it go. Every chance they get they exploit it to try to destroy the credibility of Obama’s opponents. And idiots in the electorate believe them.
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I call BS on this one.
Who leaves their weapon at the scene unless they were hit by return fire and incapacitated or something.
Way to convenient.
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I keep waiting for a burning of the Reichstag moment, but I think this bunch is more clever than that. I would they’ll try 1,000 smaller staged events for the same purpose.
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