FYI, I'm probably going to be covering this story quite a bit over the next few days, since he basically sounds like a mentally unstable, violent Freeper.
For those of you who would argue that most Freepers are mentally unstable, let me point out that this guy killed dozens of teenagers. So, you know, contextually, they're not that crazy.
Let me know if you have any requests.
The Norwegian daily Verdens Gang QOUTED A FRIEND as saying Breivik became a right-wing extremist
Often, the extremes in Europe are communists on the left and fascists on the right.
So, an “extreme right wing” individual in Europe is not always an “extreme right wing” individual in America. That’s important to note
So he belongs to the swedish nazi party that believes in attacks on government buildings , sounds like adolph obammas best friend bill ayers.
And or corrupt media will never tell us the truth. Or theirs.
"Fascists are Lefties, too."---So I always thought. Tell that to a lib/progressive and you will get an argument like the article that Communists are lefties and Fascists are right wing extremists.
Can someone with a handle on why the libs think that please chime in? Both take freedoms; both have govt. totally in control of business (though in Fascism, there is some private ownership with close govt. supervision, while in Communism the govt. owns everything); in short, both are statist govts.
The closest I ever came to winning an argument with an Ivory tower, Ivy leaguer, was when one explained that everything is on a straight line continuum, with Communism at left tip and Fascism far right. I said, "Aha! When you bend the line and make a circle, Communism and Fascism are right together. But you cannot win an argument with the left--conservatives just aren't that smart (in lefties' opinion), and facts are only checkers to be moved around the board.
I just don't see why anyone would target children - right or left wing. It will be interesting to find out what 'result' he had in mind other then killing children.
They are going to use this meme to demonize and then shut down Free Republic.
Seems I recall a certain past affinity, between the Nazi regime and certain Muslim regimes. Not to tie it all up in a nice pretty bow and all, but that impulse does seem to be in the air since yesterday. Too bad reality untied the state media version so rapidly, but that seems to be in the air of late as well.
Yep, the nazis and the muslims share to a great extent a common ideology. Much of it centers around the killing of Jews. See the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem during WW2 and Hitler’s promise to allow him the privilege of wiping out the remaining Jews in the ME after the Nazi victory. Also the Muslim/Nazi units in the Balkans. The muslims love Mein Kampf as it’s often purchased and given away as an Eid present.
Where there´s a nazi connection, there´s an arab connection.
What are the odds that anyone in the media points out that NAZI is an acronym for National SOCIALIST Party?
as of 2010 he wasn't and didn't like Socialist Democrat whom he claimed were leftest.
He loved the free market and what i find really odd was his writings he is always polite and courteous. Has anyone that was out to kill masses of people ever been polite and courteous?
I personally believe one of two things is taking place here:
1. He changed a great deal in one year.
2. he is being set up
Here is a quote from Breivik:
"National Socialism has always been an extreme left ideology then why are they trying constantly to strategically place it on the right side?
If you hate capitalism and the free market, such as Marxists, Nazis and Islamists do, attained the left side, period."
"Ok so he was a Neo-Nazi. Why was he gunning down kids at camp? Dont they target jews and blacks and other minorities instead? And at a kid camp of all places."
The camp, ages 16-22, hardly kids, was run by the ruling hard Socialist party. They were grooming the next generation of Socialist leadership there. The perp was apparently "fed up" with the socialist policies including unrestricted muslim immigration into the country. He apparently believed them to be the primary enablers and the root cause of the problems. Every bit of information that I've seen points to the likely motive being dissafected with the Socialist policies, including immigration, and going after children of the political elites, to make a statement. I am not trying to defend his actions in any way, just that there seems to be a grim kind of logic to it. The likely fallout of this (already happening) will be demonization and marginalization of anyone critical of multiculturalism, unrestricted immigration and espousing traditionalist, nationalist views. They will also roll back gun ownership in Norway (surprisingly permissive by European standards), big time.
I will play devil’s advocate for a bit. What connections does Soros have to Norway?
What the Norwegian govt. claims happened is so close to impossible that I assume they are lying. Assuming he was firing on full auto with a submachinegun of some sort, he’d have needed eight or ten magazines to kill that many people and he’d have needed them all to stand still while all that was going on. I assume more than one shooter was involved.
Wow the internet really bring out the crazies. There are so many people worried about what label will be put on this crazy, that they are willing to deny reality and invoke conspiracies in an attempt to save face. Folks... crazies and ideologues come in all shades ... like it or not.
"Mike Savage yesterday hinted it might be a setup or at least that is way he sounded to me."
Something isn't adding up here. A set-up is as good a working theory as any other, at the moment.
“Of course many of us are concerned - we all know how much mileage the leftists in control of most western governments will get out of a single ‘right wing’ mass murderer.”
Very good point and the current Prime Minister of Norway, Jens Stoltenberg is a socialist. His sister was a straight up Marxist and Stoltenberg came to prominence heading the Workers Youth League in Norway. He has admitted to throwing rocks at the US Embassy in Oslo during the Vietnam War.
Norway’s ruling majority is a “red-green” coalition of leftists and environmentalists.
I saw Stoltenberg on tv. I was not predisposed to dislike him because I didn't know about his past.
But in this tv clip Stoltenberg was weird. He was trying to express condolences to the victims' families, but he had a strange expression playing about the corners of his lips as he mouthed the words.
To me it looked as if he were struggling to keep from smiling. Perhaps he is in fact happy at the situation he is now in, with his party's reelection now almost assured? and despite the sad situation he could not keep a smug smirk from coming through.
IT'S NOT TERRORISM WHEN PEOPLE LIKE US DO IT!ReplyDelete
"I will play devil’s advocate for a bit. What connections does Soros have to Norway?"ReplyDelete
I think that just about sums up Free Republic in just a few words...
The threads that popped up before it was known that the suspect was an ethnic Norwegian, where Freepers "naturally" assumed this was Islamic terrorism, are full of the most vile, disgusting crap I've ever seen on the Internet. And that's saying a lot.ReplyDelete
Yep, the nazis and the muslims share to a great extent a common ideology. Much of it centers around the killing of Jews. See the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem during WW2 and Hitler’s promise to allow him the privilege of wiping out the remaining Jews in the ME after the Nazi victory. Also the Muslim/Nazi units in the Balkans. The muslims love Mein Kampf as it’s often purchased and given away as an Eid present.ReplyDelete
Actually what he is saying is partially true. If you want to do some interesting reading get some books on WW1 and WW2 and Islamic involvement in both. Especially the battle in British controlled Iraq and a force of revolting Iraqis lead by Saddam Hussiens uncle.
But yes a group of Muslims did fight with the Nazi and had their own SS unit, the Baath party later would grow out of this group. But as you know many more Muslims fought against the Nazi than fought for them during WW2.
As far as this Mein Kampf thing goes, I have know idea where he got that from. It's probably something he heard at his weekly bingo game.
Anon @8:07, another LOL WUT thing about the Mein Kampf thing is that all the Muslims I know only give children presents for Eid.ReplyDelete
Obviously these are cherry picked comments. Is there any sober introspection going on, or is it all mental gymnastics and deflection?ReplyDelete
Mike, there's no humbled remarks about toning down the rhetoric if that's what you mean. There are a few comments that accept that the guy was a right-wing extremist, that there is no media conspiracy about it, and that everyone on FR is overreacting because nuts is nuts, whatever your political beliefs.ReplyDelete
Another day, another dangerous criminal revealed to be a neo-Nazi muslim-sympathizing Jew-hating Soros-bought socialist fascist liberal.ReplyDelete
It's amazing how many of them there are.
Mike, there are about 2 people who were urging caution when everyone was trying to top each other with Internet Tough Guy rhetoric "I think we should turn Falluja into a glass parking lot" "yeah, well I think we should turn the whole Middle East into a glass parking lot" "you guys are pussies. I would personally drag every muzzie on earth out of his bed and disembowel him with a rusty spoon."ReplyDelete
Needless to say they were chased off as trolls.